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References

We need to say where quotes came from: the name of the book, and the page number, etc. Maybe we need to write a policy or guideline about this. We can look at the policies of English Wikiquote. They have the guideline en:Wikiquote:Citing sources. ☺Coppertwig(talk) 15:09, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Bureaucrat promoting question

I have a question: is it considered acceptable at this wiki for a bureaucrat to close an RfA that he has voted in? At en.wikinews, this occurs frequently, but I know that many other wikis, such as en.wiki, discourage it. I was curious what the local protocol on this is. Thanks, Tempodivalse 16:19, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. Besides, we have more than 1 crat, so it should be ok. Anyway, I feel crats should be able to close an RfA where they've !voted. I don't think we have any current policy though. Pmlineditor  Talk 16:23, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
A bureaucrat should avoid closing an RfA that he has voted in if there are other active bureaucrats who haven't voted; however, this usually isn't a problem if the vote is unanimous. Regards, SUL (talk) 16:27, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, looking through the archives, I see that some crats have closed RfAs and RfBs they voted in: Wikiquote:Requests for adminship/Tempodivalse and Wikiquote:Requests for bureaucratship/American Eagle 2, for instance, so I guess it's allowed. My reason for asking this is because I wanted to vote in Pmlineditor's RfA, but also wanted to be able to close it in case the other active crat isn't around. Tempodivalse 16:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I believe JC is around and will look forward to close it. ;) Pmlineditor  Talk 16:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Just a (late) comment - I think it's generally considered acceptable on smaller communities, especially where the vote is clear. However, if the discussion is more borderline, it's best to wait for another 'crat to weigh in. –Juliancolton | Talk 16:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, it'll get difficult in such RfAs here. We've got 2 active crats, so... it'll be nearly impossible to get an RfA where they both haven't participated. ;) PmlineditorTalk
AFAIK, RyanCross and Coppertwig still lurk, so if a close is needed we could email them –Juliancolton | Talk 05:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Updating Special:WantedPages

Is it possible to update the list of most requested pages? The page was last updated on September 3, 2007. —§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 00:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I think we need someone with db access. The page is terribly outdated. Pmlineditor  Talk 07:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know who has db access or if anyone knows a bot who can update this as well? —§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 06:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I'll ask others on IRC today. Pmlineditor  Talk 10:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I think that Bluegoblin7 knows how to update it. SUL (talk) 11:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I asked BG7 on IRC, but couldn't get a good reply. I'll ask someone else. Pmlineditor  Talk 10:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Not possible. The WMF no longer update these pages, regardless of who you ask and whether you file bugs or not. The easiest (but slowest) way of doing it is to get a page dump and make a page manually. If you can wait a while, I can probably do some SQL queries on the TS, but it's a big query... Bluegoblin7 (talk) 10:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
@PM: That's what I said on IRC, and it's a perfectly good reply... Bluegoblin7 (talk) 10:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
The point is, I don't know much about wiki software and amidst all the kicks, it was difficult to understand. ;p Pmlineditor  Talk 10:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Announcement

This has been done by Chenzw and the page may be found here. Subsequent updates to Wikiquote:Recent Changes are to be made from that list. Pmlineditor ∞ 12:47, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

My bad, Special:WantedPages has been updated, though I prefer Chen's list. Pmlineditor ∞ 15:59, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

popups

Could someone please enable popups (sysops have to do it)? Someone should know how to do it. Griffinofwales (talk) 18:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Go to your monobook.js (or whatever you use) and add the following,
// User:Lupin/popups.js
document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
            + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/popups.js' 
            + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');
Then purge the page. The popups should be working by then. —§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 19:14, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I added it to the Special:Preferences page, that's easier than doing it manually. Check the gagdets pages in your prefs, it should be under "Browsing gadgets". Cheers Tempodivalse 19:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
It's ugly! Do what simpleWP did, [[:en:Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups|Navigation popups (API)]]. It looks much better. Griffinofwales (talk) 19:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

{edit conflict) :P —§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 19:28, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

You mean the link in the prefs? Yeah, it looks ugly, but I can't seem to figure out how to insert a link into it. Maybe someone with a better knowledge of MediaWiki can help? Tempodivalse 19:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I just figured out how to add the links. Does this look better now? Tempodivalse 19:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Much better. Thanks, Griffinofwales (talk) 19:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

desysops

Does this project have a guideline/policy/unwritten rule on de-sysops for inactive admins? Just wondering. Griffinofwales (talk) 19:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

No written policy exists on inactivity desysops AFAIK, but community consensus currently seems to be against removing inactive admins' rights (see Wikiquote:Simple talk#Proposal for desysop of Cromwellt (talk • changes • blocks • protects • deletions • moves). Tempodivalse 19:39, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Griffinofwales (talk) 19:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

American Eagle

Hey ya'll! Because of my absense, I have removed the bot flag from User:AEBot, which is no longer running. I have also requested on meta the removal of my admin and bureaucratship. If I ever decide to return (which I'm not currently planning on...), I think I'm trusted enough to be restored the rights without controversy. ;) But for now, I have no use of them. I must say, I'm very happy with the progress of this wiki! You are all doing a fantastic job, and I wish you all best of times! God bless, American Eagle (talk) 01:29, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Farewell! Smile.png Should you ever decide to come back, I'm sure the community will be glad to restore your rights. Best of wishes in your future endeavours, and thank you once again for your contributions to this wiki. Cheers, Tempodivalse 01:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Goodbye! Thanks for all your hard work. :) —§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 04:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Goodbye AE. You have done great work here. Pmlineditor  Talk 08:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Goodbye American Eagle. Thanks for all of your contributions here! SUL (talk) 15:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
A farewell from me too. — RyanCross (talk)

rollback

I could use rollback here. I check in here frequently although I don't usually edit. I am a rollbacker at the English and Simple English Wikipedias. Griffinofwales (talk) 23:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Tempodivalse 00:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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