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StaticChristian's fake pages

Ended 22:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC), result was to delete both pages.
This was not an easy close by any means. While the numerical was 7–5, I believe there is rough agreement that these two pages should be deleted. The strongest argument presented by the deleting side was that the secret pages, and similar pages, occupy too much of SC edits, and not of them are to articles. When considering SC's previous history, and that he's trying to reform himself for a potential unban on the Wikipedias, it would be best for the pages deleted so SC could work on articles. Flying Spaghetti Monster, albeit arguing to keep the pages, had a similar point to the users wishing to delete, while SC did not present any arguments for why the pages should be retained. After that, the arguments in keep, albeit pretty strong, are not overpowering the arguments to delete, and in the end, the users wanting to keep the pages are outnumbered.

Going off somewhat on a tangent, I advise, not completely on behalf of the community nor myself, for StaticChristian to really start editing articles. One must bear in mind that this is a compendium of quote and not a social networking site. Having a quarter of your edits to usespace is a really bad sign for someone's who's been banned from two other wikis (at least!) and is trying to reform, in hopes of an unban. I hope you take this advice to hear, SC.

Maxim(talk) 22:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Both have been deleted. Thank you Maxim. SwirlBoy39 00:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I would like to propose Static Christians following fun pages to be deleted:

These pages don't contribute to the encyclopedia, are old, and useless, and generally frowned upon. SwirlBoy39 02:56, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

By the way, how are these pages "old" as you said. It doesn't make sense... -- American Eagle (talkmy RfB) 04:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I should have clarified, sorry. I meant they're not being used often, and they take up space. SwirlBoy39 04:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
"Take up space" - lol. Right... like we have a limit. ;) That is bogus, we have 2,772 pages and English Wikipedia has 15,169,969. We are not "taking up" Wikimedia space, we are small and his two small pages aren't hurting anything. -- American Eagle (talk) 04:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I didn't say they took up a lot of space, did I? :) Plus, they're annoying. SwirlBoy39 04:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
So, where in policy does it say that because a page is annoying that users have a right to delete it? I doubt that you will find any such rule. You said on IRC that you thought he was too annoying to continue to edit. I don't think is any longer a matter of policy and to keep or not to keep some (completely harmless) subpages, it is a matter of you not liking StaticChristian. Again, I advise you to just bring up a topic on Simple talk. -- American Eagle (talk) 04:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Do we have an active admin remaining that hasn't participated? Because I think the answer's no. Since I have not participated, and this looks controversial, I volunteer to close this, and have an admin delete the pages for me, if necessary. Thoughts? Maxim(talk) 15:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering about that! Thanks for volunteering! If you believe you can close this impartially, I trust you to do so, Maxim, after it runs for a usual number of days. (I think it's 5 days on English Wikipedia.) Coppertwig(talk) 02:11, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure Maxim will be neutral about this. I know he's done controversial things like this on en.wikipedia, or any other place for that matter. Thank you for volunteering. – RyanCross (talk) 06:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Delete

It's a secret page, for goodness sakes, not Myspace. -- American Eagle (talkmy RfB) 03:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • He only has a 7% mainspace count, and so I don't think as much leeway should be given with these unnecessary pages. Shapiros10 13:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. The term "myspacy" means that these are pages that look more like they should be on myspace. This wiki is for quotes, on people. Its not a game, and should not be used for "fun pages" that have 100% nothing to do with the purpose you work hard to produce here on simple-wikiquote. To even for a split second, think they need to be kept, is a direct result in serious lax in better judgment. The more you let this user create userpace pages and waste the communities time, the less you will get done. This isn't the first wiki he's done this one, and your just letting him get away with it. They should all be speedied. End of story. Synergy 15:35, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per Synergy. Having fun in your userspace is fine, but it should be backed up with proper mainspace contributions (as I believe I said somewhere earlier). PeterSymonds 15:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Keep

  • Strong (x100) Keep - for goodness sakes, they're userpages! Leave him alone, they aren't hurting anything and I don't think I've ever really seen a userpage that contributes to the encyclopedia. And RyanCross, we aren't English Wikipedia. -- American Eagle (talkmy RfB) 03:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes we aren't. I'm !voting delete per the consensus of that MFD from the English Wikipedia. – RyanCross (talk) 03:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Either way, there is no need for deletion. -- American Eagle (talkmy RfB) 03:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Seriously guys... write some articles instead of fussing about this kind of thing. Im keep by the way as I don't see how these are a problem in anyway. The Flying Spaghetti Monster 12:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
  • keepStaticChristian✞ 14:01, 6 November 2008 (UTC) Vote is not valid per this discussion. If a subpage is listed for deletion, the subpage's owner cannot vote, but can comment. Thanks! SwirlBoy39 03:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
    This vote may or may not be valid. See the discussion. Coppertwig(talk) 15:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
    Yes it's valid, the owner of a subpage has a right to argue for it being kept. Maxim(talk) 15:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, if it was loads, I'd delete them. But only two... Microchip08 01:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. The MfD discussion linked to was difficult to decide, and has some very good keep reasons. Server space is very cheap. If a page is not being edited, then it takes up no space in New changes and does no harm. There should not be a large number of those pages. Editors should do useful edits, but I think editors can do some fun edits too. I do some fun edits, too. It was a compromise: some pages were deleted, because there were too many, but some were kept. On small wikis, we use different rules than big wikis. I think we can have a very small amount more fun here than on English Wikipedia, so because the MfD was difficult to decide, we can keep the pages. This discussion is using a lot more of editors' time than the pages were using. It's important for this project to be welcoming to people, so that people will stay and help edit it. Coppertwig(talk) 15:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes but if its practically the only thing you do on a wiki, it should not be allowed. No matter how small the wiki, its still a WMF wiki, and should not be used for reasons contrary to establishing useful information. This is Statics only home now. You want him, you keep him. Synergy 15:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Copper, look at this. User is 16.39%! User talk is a whopping 35.38%! Guess what mainspace is? 7.68%! Besides the reasons I listed above, they should be deleted because of his lack of other work. Most of his "work" is for fun and chatting. Look at the pie graph for more. SwirlBoy39 19:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Some of his contributions which show up in mainspace are in the Template and Wikiquote namespaces. In Wikiquote, he's worked on Quote of the Day. He's also done work on policy in the Wikiquote namespace. Coppertwig(talk) 01:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that is true. He has edited often here, so that reason shouldn't be used against him. -- American Eagle (talk) 06:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
And created WQ:CHU and WQ:ER. ✞StaticChristian✞ 14:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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