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Okay, I've moved it over (with a few extra changes). Thank you so much for your work, and welcome from me! You are doing well and I hope to see you here in the future. -- American Eagle (talkbureaucratship) 01:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Restored

I restored your page. See WQ:ST SwirlBoy39 17:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for telling me about HideFundraisingNotice!!! Coppertwig(talk) 00:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

You are most welcome! :) Glad it helped. PeterSymonds 10:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Wowser

Barnstar Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

Wow, you did a lot of work. ;) This is your reward. Enjoy! -- American Eagle (talk) 05:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, thank you! :) PeterSymonds 08:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I saw that you had done a lot of work, too! Thank you for contributing to Simple English Wikiquote! Coppertwig(talk) 13:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I just went through your changes, and I was amazed at what a great job you did at simplifying the quotes, it was better than I would have done them. Great work. -- American Eagle (talk) 20:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Messages about other projects

Hi. Re this message: If the user asked for that kind of message here or if you're confident that the user would want it, I guess that's OK; otherwise, I think Simple English Wikiquote might not be a good place to give someone messages like that that are about other projects. Thanks. Coppertwig(talk) 01:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I apologize. I didn't know about the link you gave, where the user asked to have messages here. There was nothing wrong with your putting messages like that on this wiki, then. I'm sorry I said anything. Coppertwig(talk) 23:35, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Roger Ascham

Haha ;) On Roger Ascham, right as I save the page (from adding the two sources), I see you've added the sources! :) Thank you for your work, it is very good. God bless, American Eagle (talk) 22:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! :) I know a bit about Ascham from studying Elizabeth I, so it was quite a pleasure to see that pop up! Thanks also for the compliment. :D PeterSymonds 22:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

help

can you help me with Wikipedia? ✞StaticChristian✞ 14:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure, what do you need help with? PeterSymonds 14:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
nvr mind it is already simplified. ✞StaticChristian✞ 14:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar...

Barnstar Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

I award you, PeterSymonds (talk changes), this barnstar for your hard work on the Elizabeth I of England. Good job, and keep up the good work! :) – RyanCross (talk) 17:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, thanks Ryan! :) PeterSymonds 17:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Barnstar Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

For being a helpful editor. ✞StaticChristian✞ 17:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Very kind, thank you! :) PeterSymonds 17:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
You should get 20,000,000 barnstars, IMO. ✞StaticChristian✞ 17:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Good work on Elizabeth I: I saw that, too! Coppertwig(talk) 17:43, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Maybe he should get a Barnsmiley? ✞StaticChristian✞ 17:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Laps up the praise Keep it coming, folks! :D StaticChristian, a note is just fine; I was even surprised to get that! :) Thanks again, PeterSymonds 19:40, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

admin?

do you want to be an admin? I`ll nominate you? ✞StaticChristian✞ 00:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

peter? ✞StaticChristian✞ 00:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind offer. :) I haven't been here very long yet, and I'd probably be looking at around 400-500 edits before I contemplate running. Best, PeterSymonds 00:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Is that a yes or no? ✞StaticChristian✞ 00:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. It's a no at the moment, because I only have about 209 edits. I don't want it to look like I've just turned up; I'm quite serious about this project. :) Best, PeterSymonds 00:16, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
ok i didnt understand because of the big words. ✞StaticChristian✞ 00:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I have a habit of using non-simple words to people I know. :) I'll keep it simple next time. Best, PeterSymonds 00:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
OK! ✞StaticChristian✞ 00:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

hey

lets work on a RfA article together. ✞StaticChristian✞ 00:46, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

If you're really interested, sure. I gather from the strike that you were more interested in alerting me about your RfA though... PeterSymonds 01:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

One quick thing

Hey, one thing to remember, when linking to Wikipedia, use w: and not wikipedia:. Wikipedia: links to English Wikipedia, w: to Simple English Wikipedia. Okay? -- American Eagle (talk) 05:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, I realised that early on. I've used the w: code since. :) Thanks, PeterSymonds 10:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, that's why I've been confused about it. The bad thing is, if you always say "en" or "simple" to try to make sure it works, it doesn't work. Coppertwig(talk) 14:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Coppertwig, that's just one more reason you're such a noob. :) -- American Eagle (talk) 18:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
(Laughing) Yeah, I haven't even been here 2 years yet! Coppertwig(talk) 18:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Good warning

Stop x nuvola.svg Please do not create so many good pages, and work on them. The rest of us cannot keep up with you, and it is unfair. We are all supposed to be equal here, and you have blown the rest of us away. If this continues, you will be given too many barnstars. If you want to test, go ahead. I don't mind. (lolz :) Thank you, and good job. ;) -- American Eagle (talk) 20:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha. I..apologise? :D Thanks for your kind words! :) PeterSymonds 21:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

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FYI

[1] ;) – RyanCross (talk) 02:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Whoops! Yes, I was having a problem with end dates yesterday...On Matilda's simple.wikipedia RfA, I put the end date as 2009!! ;) Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! You are an administrator

I have just closed your RfA as "successful" and have made you an administrator. Congratulations! Coppertwig(talk) 00:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 00:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations, Peter. :-) – RyanCross (talk) 01:31, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Ryan. :) Also my thanks to all who commented in the request. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 01:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Yayz! Congrats! You will be good for the job. ;) -- American Eagle (talk) 03:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. :) I haven't broken anything yet, at least! PeterSymonds (talk) 03:10, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I still think you need moar cowbell though...but congrats :). ס (Samekh) Talk 11:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:O Sorry I missed this, but congratulations, nonetheless. Juliancolton 06:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow!

I see you did lots of work on the Mediawiki files! Coppertwig(talk) 12:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, just a few! Basically in January 2007, most of the main MediaWiki files were moved to MediaWiki:Title/en, making the MediaWiki: namespace effectively redundant. This is why a number of edited MediaWiki messages weren't showing up. I just copied all the files over so they should work now. :) Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 12:47, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Could you explain that a bit more? Why "en"? Why not "simple"? Coppertwig(talk) 17:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh, no, not en as in enwikipedia, or enwikiquote. Basically the MediaWiki interface was all translated at a site called Betawiki, so the English Language interfaces were moved to /en (English). This has been done on all the smaller English wikis as far as I know. It's not "simple" because "simple English" is not a recognised language on Betawiki. Does that help? Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 17:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, as long as it works, OK. Thanks for your answer, and thanks for knowing about that stuff. Coppertwig(talk) 18:07, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
You'll notice that all the system messages in Special:Allmessages link to /en. That's why they are as they are. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 18:09, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, good job. :-) – RyanCross (talk) 20:46, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! :) PeterSymonds (talk) 22:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem, Peter! ;-) – RyanCross (talk) 20:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Category:Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom

Being from the opposite side of the pond, I was wondering if you could clarify the difference between our Category:Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom and the English Category:British Prime Ministers. I'd like to interwiki the two, but if our scope is different, that can't be done. Thanks! EVula // talk // 20:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

No real difference; I can change the category if needs be. Basically the "Prime Minister of the United Kingdom" is the official title, and the category that enwiki uses, but it makes no difference, so I'll change them round. ^_^ Cheers, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I figured they were pretty synonymous, but still thought I'd double check. Good times on tag-teaming the Gladstone article. ;) EVula // talk // 20:11, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
:D PeterSymonds (talk) 20:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Undeletions

I know you are inactive right now, Peter, but I wanted to tell you that I undeleted all the MediaWiki pages you deleted. Even though I get what you mean by it being /en with the software, it doesn't work that way here. It was showing up "Random," "Recent," "Edit," "Contributions" and so on. All the pages you created (/en) are still existing, I am unsure of what to do with them at the moment. Any thoughts? Thanks. American Eagle (talk) 08:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, odd. I just changed MediaWiki:Edit to "edit this page" as a test, and it makes no difference; I still see "change this page". However, when I change MediaWiki:Edit/en, I see "edit this page". Where exactly were you seeing this? I possibly missed some of the messages. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:33, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Another oddity that I couldn't quite figure out: usually, "r" is the accesskey for Special:RecentChanges, though it isn't here. MediaWiki:Accesskey-n-recentchanges is set just like any other wiki (compare with en:MediaWiki:Accesskey-n-recentchanges), but yet it doesn't work. That's not an area of the MediaWiki namespace that I've logged a lot of edits; can you figure out what the deal is? EVula // talk // 17:07, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I figured it out: MediaWiki:Sidebar needs to be edited so that the "New changes" text is just "recentchanges" (which will pull from MediaWiki:Recentchanges). You can see an example of what I'm talking about at w:MediaWiki:Sidebar. I'd do it myself, but since it's in the MediaWiki namespace, I can't; I miss having the sysop flag sometimes. :) EVula // talk // 17:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Peter, when you changed MediaWiki:Edit to "Edit," it made it edit instead of "Change" for me. And it changed all the others when I undeleted them. EVula, Yes check.svg Done. American Eagle (talk) 18:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Sometimes when you make a change you don't see it right away. I find it helps to look at a page you haven't looked at for a long time (or ever); maybe another way is to put "&action=purge" at the end of a url. I don't understand the rest of what's going on, except that Simple English is not the same as English. Coppertwig(talk) 23:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
There are some pages that are ignored by the software, the "built-in" messages here. These will not work in a /en subpage, because they just don't. I find it totally bizarre that you're seeing things based on the older MediaWiki messages, but I've got little time to look into it until January. As for what to do with the /en subpages, it is really important that they're kept, because they are the current system messages. MediaWiki:Talkpagetext/en, for example, is what you're seeing when you edit talk pages. Currently there's no technical issue with having both at the same time, so it would be inadvisable to delete them. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 00:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
I didn't say which pages I'm seeing the words from. I don't know. I just mean, in the past, when I've changed mediawiki pages, I didn't see the new words for a while, but then later I did see the words I had changed them to. I think I changed things like "change this part". I don't think I ever changed the /en pages.
Mediawiki:editsection and Mediawiki:editsection/en both say "change", but when I look at my talk page, at the top of every section it says "edit". It still says it after I did "purge". But when I look at Simple talk, it says "change". I think this is what I was talking about: sometimes it takes time for the changes to be seen. I think the server saves time by remembering older versions of things. Coppertwig(talk) 02:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
(unindent) Both pages should be kept for the time being, I don't get what is the problem, though. It is like I am seeing another computer. American Eagle (talk) 05:04, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Other wikis

A couple of notes: we should only be linking to one version of Wikipedia with {{other wikis}}; Simple English is the preference, but if there isn't a SE article, then we should link to the regular English article.

Also, don't forget to remove the leading wikilink to Wikipedia (the person's name). Half the time, the links don't work anyway, so it's best to just nip those at the same time.

Keep up the good work. It was funny to jump on this morning and see that you'd done a lot of the work I'd been planning on doing. :) EVula // talk // 16:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Ooh, *slaps self*, I thought it was every wiki that applied. Haha, oops. Sorry about that! It's funny going back over them and seeing things I assumed would be at SEWP, but are actually not. I'll go on a creation spree there as well at some point, when I'm far less busy. :) Thanks for the note and for cleaning up my mistakes. :D Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 17:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

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Mistake?

Hi. You said you thought I had made a mistake. [2] Would you please tell me what you thought was a mistake and why you thought it was a mistake? I'd like to understand what you think. Coppertwig(talk) 02:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I think sole-project bureaucrats are perfectly entitled to vote, but they should not avoid closing the discussion. As a bureaucrat candidate, editors entrusted you to adequately judge consensus in a neutral way. Ergo, we trust you to close nominations despite your personal feelings about the quality of those nominations. It's now caused a problematic issue which involved some discussion at meta, and I believe it could have been avoided. I understand your reasons for not closing, but as the sole bureaucrat, I believe you should have made the close despite your own feelings. Just my 2p. That said, I still trust you as a bureaucrat, and have no issues with you continuing. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 10:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
OK, thank you for explaining. I understand why you consider that a mistake. I don't agree.
It's fine for you to trust me. But there may still be some discussions that I'm not willing to close. I think that's fine. I think I can do that in a way that won't make important problems for the project.
"It's now caused a problematic issue which involved some discussion at meta": Maybe it wasn't a big problem. Maybe I'm not the only person who made a lot of discussion happen this time. Maybe people didn't need to discuss it so much if discussion is a bad thing. Do you mean the discussion here, or was there other discussion too?
I don't know any reason why another person -- maybe an administrator -- couldn't close a discussion like that. So, I don't think there's a problem. EVula said a non-bureaucrat shouldn't close it, but didn't give a reason, and I don't think that's a strong opinion because EVula also said "I'm a bureaucrat on several projects and would be happy to close it (despite not being a bureaucrat here)". [3] If the community decides that people who are not bureaucrats or stewards can't close discussions like that, then that will be fine. If that causes a problem, we'll find some way to solve it. I don't think it means I have to close the discussion: there are other ways to do it. There are still other possibilities: another bureaucrat closing it, or a steward closing it (for example, if I'm the only bureaucrat and I resign).
But it's OK if we disagree. I think people don't have to agree about everything. Thank you for trusting me. Coppertwig(talk) 17:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I do agree another editor could've closed it, so there wouldn't have been too much of an issue. I just find it unfortunate that it had to go to meta like it did. But as I say, it will work out in the end, so I don't think there's a big issue. Not an issue to lose your cratship over, anyway, and yes, you continue to have my trust and confidence. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Coppertwig(talk) 20:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Tally

Hi. Can you give me a link to a policy that supports this edit? Coppertwig(talk) 00:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. I think you were right. Sorry about that. I think I remember something about that now, that I used to know. Anyway, I was only writing it down as a number; that doesn't mean I would have let it change the way I closed the RfA. Coppertwig(talk) 13:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

RfB thanks

Thank you for voting in my request of bureaucratship (yes, I can spell that now :P). RyanCross has closed the request has "successful" and I have now been granted the bureaucrat flag. Special thanks to my nom, Razorflame. I was not expecting to pass (as I have less support % than my previous RfB). But, I greatly thank you all for this opportunity, I do not plan to let you down. In fact, I promise to do my very best not to. :) God bless, TheAE talk 03:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Good stuff; congrats. PeterSymonds (talk) 01:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

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